Simple Fix To Stop Your Old Loggy Bayou Climber From Sliding

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Loggy Bayou climbers are one of the lightest, fastest setup , and easiest to use climbers ever made.
They only weigh 15 lbs including the climbing aid . The only other climber that light is the Lone Wolf
As far as I know Loggy is still the only climber that has the seat built into the platform.
It is a great design that can be used as a climber and as a hang on stand.

However they had a problem . When the stands and climbing aids were new it worked great. But as soon as the ribs on the hard rubber band on the stand and on the climbing aid that make contact with the tree started to wear down , the stand would start to slide. A lot of people got hurt having the stands slide out from under them. Especially trying to climb any smooth bark tree. Add a little rain to get the tree wet and it was a death trap. I slid about 10 feet once but never all the way to the ground. A couple of the guys I hunt with ended up having the stand fall to the ground. They had to hug the tree and come down like a fire pole.

For years after my Loggy's started sliding I would only use them as hang on stands. Even at that I would have to use a ratchet strap on them to keep them from tipping slightly from side to side. One summer day I decided to take them outside and give them new camo paint. I was also contemplating going out and buying 2 new climbers or think of a way to fix them. I had the stands leaned up against the wall in my garage right next to of all things a STUDDED SNOW TIRE ! And the light goes on ! :cool: I will put studs in them ! I went to the hardware store and bought a box of 1 inch and a box of 1 1/4 hex head self tapping screws with the built in washer like these.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt...g-Sheet-Metal-Screw-50-Piece-801282/204274982

I installed them on one of the stands and tried it on a tree in my back yard to see how good they would work. I could not believe how good of a grip it had on that tree. I even stood on one side of the stand and could not even make it tip to the side at all. Since then I have used them hunting climbing up any kind of tree. It grips that wet smooth bark tree with no issues at all. I bought 6 more Loggy's that I use as climbers and as hang on stands. I did this 12 years ago and still have the original screws in those stands. Still grip the tree as good as when I first put them in.

Here are some pics with the screws in place on the stand and on the climbing aid. DSCN9228.JPG DSCN9228.JPG DSCN9228.JPG DSCN9229.JPG DSCN9229.JPG DSCN9229.JPG
 
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I have a loggy and love it. I just don't climb smooth trees in the rain though. Rough bark on the rain is fine. Looks like you have a nice set up there. I pretty much avoid smooth barked trees in the rain no matter if climbing with my loggy or lone wolf's.
 

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I still have mine. Haven't used in years. I need to put a new seat in it because mice ate it. The problem I had was the metal studs the go into the holes in the climbing aid would sometimes pop out 1/2 way up the tree and the bar would get crooked and bind up.
 

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I still have mine. Haven't used in years. I need to put a new seat in it because mice ate it. The problem I had was the metal studs the go into the holes in the climbing aid would sometimes pop out 1/2 way up the tree and the bar would get crooked and bind up.
That sounds like a real easy fix. You can just drill a hole through the bar that lines up with the hole on the climbing aid. Then drill a hole completely through the bar and climbing aid. Put a bolt in that sticks out about 1/2 inch on the other side and put a wing nut on it. That would even solve the little rattle the bar makes when climbing. I might even do that to one of my climbing aids. Thats would work even better than the original spring steel strips with the stud . Or just get another stud.

I just went down and looked at a couple of my climbing aids. I dont understand why the stud is popping out. Either your spring steel strips no longer have tension or the stud is worn down and is now too short. Maybe the U part that slides over the climbing aid is spread out and needs to be compressed back to shape..
What kind of seat does your stand have ? The cushion, the cloth, or the strap seat ?
 

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Mine had the cloth seat. I will check to see if something stretched on the climbing aid. I'm also going to see if a hazmore seat will work on it
 

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Loggy Bayou climbers are one of the lightest, fastest setup , and easiest to use climbers ever made.
They only weigh 15 lbs including the climbing aid . The only other climber that light is the Lone Wolf
As far as I know Loggy is still the only climber that has the seat built into the platform.
It is a great design that can be used as a climber and as a hang on stand.

However they had a problem . When the stands and climbing aids were new it worked great. But as soon as the ribs on the hard rubber band on the stand and on the climbing aid that make contact with the tree started to wear down , the stand would start to slide. A lot of people got hurt having the stands slide out from under them. Especially trying to climb any smooth bark tree. Add a little rain to get the tree wet and it was a death trap. I slid about 10 feet once but never all the way to the ground. A couple of the guys I hunt with ended up having the stand fall to the ground. They had to hug the tree and come down like a fire pole.

For years after my Loggy's started sliding I would only use them as hang on stands. Even at that I would have to use a ratchet strap on them to keep them from tipping slightly from side to side. One summer day I decided to take them outside and give them new camo paint. I was also contemplating going out and buying 2 new climbers or think of a way to fix them. I had the stands leaned up against the wall in my garage right next to of all things a STUDDED SNOW TIRE ! And the light goes on ! :cool: I will put studs in them ! I went to the hardware store and bought a box of 1 inch and a box of 1 1/4 hex head self tapping screws with the built in washer like these.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt...g-Sheet-Metal-Screw-50-Piece-801282/204274982

I installed them on one of the stands and tried it on a tree in my back yard to see how good they would work. I could not believe how good of a grip it had on that tree. I even stood on one side of the stand and could not even make it tip to the side at all. Since then I have used them hunting climbing up any kind of tree. It grips that wet smooth bark tree with no issues at all. I bought 6 more Loggy's that I use as climbers and as hang on stands. I did this 12 years ago and still have the original screws in those stands. Still grip the tree as good as when I first put them in.

Here are some pics with the screws in place on the stand and on the climbing aid. View attachment 22550 View attachment 22550 View attachment 22550 View attachment 22551 View attachment 22551 View attachment 22551
Did you use the different length screws in certain area`s on the hard rubber that contacts the tree?
 

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Loggy Bayou climbers are one of the lightest, fastest setup , and easiest to use climbers ever made.
They only weigh 15 lbs including the climbing aid . The only other climber that light is the Lone Wolf
As far as I know Loggy is still the only climber that has the seat built into the platform.
It is a great design that can be used as a climber and as a hang on stand.

However they had a problem . When the stands and climbing aids were new it worked great. But as soon as the ribs on the hard rubber band on the stand and on the climbing aid that make contact with the tree started to wear down , the stand would start to slide. A lot of people got hurt having the stands slide out from under them. Especially trying to climb any smooth bark tree. Add a little rain to get the tree wet and it was a death trap. I slid about 10 feet once but never all the way to the ground. A couple of the guys I hunt with ended up having the stand fall to the ground. They had to hug the tree and come down like a fire pole.

For years after my Loggy's started sliding I would only use them as hang on stands. Even at that I would have to use a ratchet strap on them to keep them from tipping slightly from side to side. One summer day I decided to take them outside and give them new camo paint. I was also contemplating going out and buying 2 new climbers or think of a way to fix them. I had the stands leaned up against the wall in my garage right next to of all things a STUDDED SNOW TIRE ! And the light goes on ! :cool: I will put studs in them ! I went to the hardware store and bought a box of 1 inch and a box of 1 1/4 hex head self tapping screws with the built in washer like these.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt...g-Sheet-Metal-Screw-50-Piece-801282/204274982

I installed them on one of the stands and tried it on a tree in my back yard to see how good they would work. I could not believe how good of a grip it had on that tree. I even stood on one side of the stand and could not even make it tip to the side at all. Since then I have used them hunting climbing up any kind of tree. It grips that wet smooth bark tree with no issues at all. I bought 6 more Loggy's that I use as climbers and as hang on stands. I did this 12 years ago and still have the original screws in those stands. Still grip the tree as good as when I first put them in.

Here are some pics with the screws in place on the stand and on the climbing aid. View attachment 22550 View attachment 22550 View attachment 22550 View attachment 22551 View attachment 22551 View attachment 22551
Did you use the different length screws in certain areas on the hard ruber that cotacts the tree?
 

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Did you use the different length screws in certain areas on the hard ruber that cotacts the tree?
On the climbing aid I used more longer ones than the short ones.
On the stand I used mostly shorter ones than long ones depending on the angle and location.
The longer ones ( 1 1/4 in ) will go right through the metal on the stand if you drill them straight in.
You need to angle the long ones and you dont need many of them on the stand part. The short ones work just fine.
Just quit drilling as soon as they sink in the rubber . Dont overdrill them so they strip the rubber out of the drill hole.
I did this to 6 of my loggy bayou stands over 10 years ago. Every one of them still works better than any other climber I've seen.
I have not lost a single screw out of any stand or climbing aid and all the guys at my hunting camp use them every year.
 

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Thanks for the response and advice! I will install them as you advised and I took large photos of your stand and climbing aid, so I could place the screws in the exact same places as you did! The ribs in the hard rubber on mine are not worn down like yours were, but its still ok to install the screws, right?
 

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Thanks for the response and advice! I will install them as you advised and I took large photos of your stand and climbing aid, so I could place the screws in the exact same places as you did! The ribs in the hard rubber on mine are not worn down like yours were, but its still ok to install the screws, right?
Absolutely ! If I had known how good the stands were going to work with the screws I would of installed them when the stands were new. The screws made them climb better than when they were new with full rubber. Especially on wet smooth bark trees. Even when the stands were new you could feel the stand sliding a little on wet trees. It didn't take much wear on the rubber to make the stand slide on a wet or dry smooth bark tree. Now I dont care if the tree is rough or smooth or if its wet or dry , its gripping that tree and it wont slide.

Its a good time of year to do it. You can put the screws in and spray camo paint over them to take the shine off the screws . It takes a couple months for the paint smell to wear off.
Good luck with it . Post some pics after you are done with the stand.
 

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Loggy Bayou climbers are one of the lightest, fastest setup , and easiest to use climbers ever made.
They only weigh 15 lbs including the climbing aid . The only other climber that light is the Lone Wolf
As far as I know Loggy is still the only climber that has the seat built into the platform.
It is a great design that can be used as a climber and as a hang on stand.

However they had a problem . When the stands and climbing aids were new it worked great. But as soon as the ribs on the hard rubber band on the stand and on the climbing aid that make contact with the tree started to wear down , the stand would start to slide. A lot of people got hurt having the stands slide out from under them. Especially trying to climb any smooth bark tree. Add a little rain to get the tree wet and it was a death trap. I slid about 10 feet once but never all the way to the ground. A couple of the guys I hunt with ended up having the stand fall to the ground. They had to hug the tree and come down like a fire pole.

For years after my Loggy's started sliding I would only use them as hang on stands. Even at that I would have to use a ratchet strap on them to keep them from tipping slightly from side to side. One summer day I decided to take them outside and give them new camo paint. I was also contemplating going out and buying 2 new climbers or think of a way to fix them. I had the stands leaned up against the wall in my garage right next to of all things a STUDDED SNOW TIRE ! And the light goes on ! :cool: I will put studs in them ! I went to the hardware store and bought a box of 1 inch and a box of 1 1/4 hex head self tapping screws with the built in washer like these.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt...g-Sheet-Metal-Screw-50-Piece-801282/204274982

I installed them on one of the stands and tried it on a tree in my back yard to see how good they would work. I could not believe how good of a grip it had on that tree. I even stood on one side of the stand and could not even make it tip to the side at all. Since then I have used them hunting climbing up any kind of tree. It grips that wet smooth bark tree with no issues at all. I bought 6 more Loggy's that I use as climbers and as hang on stands. I did this 12 years ago and still have the original screws in those stands. Still grip the tree as good as when I first put them in.

Here are some pics with the screws in place on the stand and on the climbing aid. View attachment 22550 View attachment 22550 View attachment 22550 View attachment 22551 View attachment 22551 View attachment 22551
I bought a used loggy today. Had one years ago and loved but somehow it disappeared. Are you screwing through the rubber into the metal? And great idea with the screws.
 

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I bought a used loggy today. Had one years ago and loved but somehow it disappeared. Are you screwing through the rubber into the metal? And great idea with the screws.
Only the 1 1/4 screws might have the tip go through the metal. Its ok if they do . Most of the screws in the rubber on he platform are the 1 inch screws . But I did put in a few of the longer screws there too . I used mostly the longer screws on the climbing aid .
Like I mentioned though, on a previous post . Just quit drilling as soon as they sink in the rubber . Dont overdrill them so they strip the rubber out of the drill hole.
I made this thread in 2016 when some of those stands had the screws in for 8 years . Now 4 years later those same stands work just as well as the day I retrofitted them with the screws in the rubber. I haven't had to replace a single screw. Still gripping as good as the day I put them in.
 




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