Me and my eldest son "Buddy" having a debate

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What interesting about the formula theory is the overall weight has variability. Do the guts have that same variance? My guess is a 200 lbs live weight deer's guts would weigh approximately the same weight as a 250 lbs live weight deer. Thinking a pre-rut / post-rut buck would have the same guts weight.
Bigger deer, bigger organs.
 

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Bigger deer, bigger organs.
250 lbs live weight deer pre rut is going to drop down to 200 lbs post rut... same deer same sized organs.


250 * .78 = 195 - total organ weight 55 lbs

200 * .78 = 156 - total organ weight 44 lbs

That's why I am not so sure a formula would work. As the weight drops on the overall animal I think the guts would stay the same.
 
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What interesting about the formula theory is the overall weight has variability. Do the guts have that same variance? My guess is a 200 lbs live weight deer's guts would weigh approximately the same weight as a 250 lbs live weight deer. Thinking a pre-rut / post-rut buck would have the same guts weight.
Yeah, I'm sure there's some variance in accuracy of the dressed weight, probably not a whole lot though. There's also another formula using a chest measurement I believe.
 

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That buck will weigh exactly 209lbs. on the spot, not an ounce more, not a friggin' ounce less. Period. End of argument...close the thread.
 

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210 to 215 pounds dressed is my guesstimate
 

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I think that formula might actually be pretty close. If you have 250 standing there, take out lungs (7-10lbs), liver (7-10lbs), paunch and intestines, blood, that's easily another 30-35lbs right there, then the ballon knot, might be a pound, but you guys are splitting hairs here. I think a gut pile on a 250lb deer would be low side 44lbs, high side 55lbs. Either way, it's not dressing even 210
 

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fully dressed that buck is closer to 200 , your right , tell buddy to take a lap if you havent already shot one to prove him wrong ....
my guess would be around 200
 
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250 lbs live weight deer pre rut is going to drop down to 200 lbs post rut... same deer same sized organs.


250 * .78 = 195 - total organ weight 55 lbs

200 * .78 = 156 - total organ weight 44 lbs

That's why I am not so sure a formula would work. As the weight drops on the overall animal I think the guts would stay the same.
My first reply was brief and I can see why you disagree, here is my opinion on the whole scenario: Obviously the formula isn't perfect, however dressing out a pre-rut buck and one that is post rut do have noticeable differences. A buck shot Nov. 1 tends to have alot of fat inside the chest cavity, often hiding the tenderloins and totally encapsulating the kidneys to the point they are hidden in a mass of fat. Shoot a buck Dec.1 and I have not found anywhere near the same conditions. The difference of 11 pounds can easliy be made up from a combination of the loss of this cavity fat and a reduction in stomach contents from less eating while chasing tail.

Like I said the formula is not perfect and may have some slight variations from early season to late season, but so does the deers internal make up. It would also likley be subject to the deers home range, for instance, a rangey northwoods buck is going to lose more weight than a smaller ranged urban or small woodlot buck. Just going of my past experiences to form an opinion.
 
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I think it's hilarious that Buddy is even debating you in the first place!!!! Wow, time flies and they grow up wayyyyyyy too fast.

BTW-my vote is 210 even!
 




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