I had some time today to just take it easy.I was off, and it was raining so I didn'tgo bow hunting. Anyway I loaded up some 180 grain sierra roundnose bullets in my 308. I used 44.5 grains of 4064 powder in one group. It would be a passable hunting load but nothing to get excited about. Then I loaded 44 grains of 4895. This load shot bug holes. I was impressed. My next load was 48 grains of w-760. It also shot bug holes! This is out of my 7600 QWAC carbine. Don't ever let anyone tell you these rifles won't shoot. This little rifle will shoot with any rifle I own. And I have some expensive target rifles!