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338 Bear Hunter

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My personal experience has been that about 10 days per year, I think "Gosh, it sure would be nice to have a smartphone right now".

The other 355 days I think "Damn, I'm so glad I don't have to deal with the fragile, expensive, worrisome, time-wasting glass rectangle". Its a balance.
 

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My personal experience has been that about 10 days per year, I think "Gosh, it sure would be nice to have a smartphone right now".

The other 355 days I think "Damn, I'm so glad I don't have to deal with the fragile, expensive, worrisome, time-wasting glass rectangle". Its a balance.
Not really “fragile” with an Otterbox case…expensive, yes but when your phone is $1200+ a good case is a must…dropped mine many times and never broke. I would not be without a “smaaaht phone” the cameras alone are phenomenal.
 

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The ability for a lifetime license makes even less sense to me today from a F&G Dept. stand point. I was checking the cost of two archery tags for this season. At check out it's 58.00 for the two tags, BUT a pair of extra fees added on to the final check out. $2.75 "processing fee" because the Dept. decided to go the route of no more hand written licenses, and a $1.51 "credit card fee". I tried shoving $58.00 cash in the back of my desktop, but it didn't take it. I dunno..... maybe the bills were crinkled. It was an extra $4.26 just because of the "online convenience ". If the Dept is worried about losing $1.51 with every online transaction, how are they not concerned about giving lifetime licenses away at pennies on the dollar?
 

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The ability for a lifetime license makes even less sense to me today from a F&G Dept. stand point. I was checking the cost of two archery tags for this season. At check out it's 58.00 for the two tags, BUT a pair of extra fees added on to the final check out. $2.75 "processing fee" because the Dept. decided to go the route of no more hand written licenses, and a $1.51 "credit card fee". I tried shoving $58.00 cash in the back of my desktop, but it didn't take it. I dunno..... maybe the bills were crinkled. It was an extra $4.26 just because of the "online convenience ". If the Dept is worried about losing $1.51 with every online transaction, how are they not concerned about giving lifetime licenses away at pennies on the dollar?
Very valid point
 

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Here in Maine we have to pay an "agent" fee. When I fill it out on my computer and use my paper to print, aren't I the agent?
 

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The ability for a lifetime license makes even less sense to me today from a F&G Dept. stand point. I was checking the cost of two archery tags for this season. At check out it's 58.00 for the two tags, BUT a pair of extra fees added on to the final check out. $2.75 "processing fee" because the Dept. decided to go the route of no more hand written licenses, and a $1.51 "credit card fee". I tried shoving $58.00 cash in the back of my desktop, but it didn't take it. I dunno..... maybe the bills were crinkled. It was an extra $4.26 just because of the "online convenience ". If the Dept is worried about losing $1.51 with every online transaction, how are they not concerned about giving lifetime licenses away at pennies on the dollar?
In VT the lifetime license monies go into a trust fund. My guess is that they then don’t use the principal and the department comes out ahead. I would guess that all states run something similar.
 

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In VT the lifetime license monies go into a trust fund. My guess is that they then don’t use the principal and the department comes out ahead. I would guess that all states run something similar.
Plus the states get PR money no matter what like if you bought a license even if you didn't hunt. That's the money maker for it. Usually state's lifetime liscense prices keep with inflation.

 

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Was thinking about this. Again, not Vermont. I know people who bought their kids lifetime licenses. Kids left the state and haven't returned to hunt or fish. Wonder what percentage of the sales are like that?
 

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I bet a lot of the ones purchased for young kids don’t get used or only get used for a few years. A lot of kids just don’t take to it these days.
 

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I bet a lot of the ones purchased for young kids don’t get used or only get used for a few years. A lot of kids just don’t take to it these days.
Some still do though! My sons been getting his money’s worth.
 

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I bet a lot of the ones purchased for young kids don’t get used or only get used for a few years. A lot of kids just don’t take to it these days.
My son was totally into deer hunting with me at 7. Now that he's older, he has no interest. My daughter was the opposite - no interest in youth, now she goes to bear camp with me every year. Neither would have been a good choice for a lifetime license. In NH, lifetime licenses can be bought at any age. The price is pro-rated according to age, so for her, it would be VERY expensive.

Old fart like me, only ~$350.
 

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My son was totally into deer hunting with me at 7. Now that he's older, he has no interest. My daughter was the opposite - no interest in youth, now she goes to bear camp with me every year. Neither would have been a good choice for a lifetime license. In NH, lifetime licenses can be bought at any age. The price is pro-rated according to age, so for her, it would be VERY expensive.

Old fart like me, only ~$350.
Deer hunting can be a tough one for kids to appreciate early on. Sitting still being quiet and sometimes cold. Not necessarily seeing deer. My son will do it. But of all the hunting I do it’s his least favorite. Small game, turkeys, ducks and or anything using a dog is much more active/interactive and that’s what seems to have gotten him hooked.

We put in a few hours fishing eels for strippers yesterday. None landed but a few bites kept us entertained.
 

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My oldest son hunted from about 5 to 13-14. Then he discovered that girls were warmer and smelled better. He didn’t hunt for a long time. At 25ish he picked it up again and is obsessed. It goes in spurts I guess

My youngest never gave it up
 

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Deer hunting can be a tough one for kids to appreciate early on. Sitting still being quiet and sometimes cold. Not necessarily seeing deer. My son will do it. But of all the hunting I do it’s his least favorite. Small game, turkeys, ducks and or anything using a dog is much more active/interactive and that’s what seems to have gotten him hooked.

We put in a few hours fishing eels for strippers yesterday. None landed but a few bites kept us entertained.
Interesting that you mention fishing. He recently made some noise about wanting to try it, but I haven't fished since I was about his age, and I wouldn't know where to begin. It seems like the rules about what you can keep, what you must throw back are daunting. That's why I love bear hunting. Black and furry? SHOOT.
 

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I just completed the math of a 50 year old NH resident buying a lifetime Hunting, Fishing combo, Muzzle loader lifetime, no habitat fee and factoring in the free bear tag. It would cost me $988.60 for those licenses. However I'd still need to purchase turkey tags yearly, but those would be covered from the savings of the lifetime license with me still saving about $352.40 over the next 18 years.

If the fees never go up again for the next 18 years, it's a savings of $665.12 and I'm sure there will be an increase at some point prior to me turning 68.

The biggest gamble to me is what will the increases look like? In the grand scheme of things saving $20.00 per year doesn't seem like anything I'm going to jump all over.

In all seriousness..... I'd save MORE money using that $1000.00 to buy a golf course membership next year.
 
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Interesting that you mention fishing. He recently made some noise about wanting to try it, but I haven't fished since I was about his age, and I wouldn't know where to begin. It seems like the rules about what you can keep, what you must throw back are daunting. That's why I love bear hunting. Black and furry? SHOOT.
It's not as hard as to seems. The fishing digest does a great job explaining each ponds rules. The biggest is understanding what is and isn't a "trout pond". Some ponds are open year round. Choose the pond you think you want to fish and do a quick search of it on the website or in the Fishing Journal the NHFG puts out. It might take you 5 minutes. Get him fishing......
 

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I purchased my NH Combination around 2001 just before rates were to increase. Around 2013 I purchased my Lifetime Muzzleloader license.

Both licenses have fed my family, coworkers, food shelters, and a few game suppers to the tune of a value exponentially greater than the purchase price.

Know that Lifetime money is invested in a interest bearing fund. The agency then withdraws funds. Essentially the sale of lifetime license is a gamble on stock markets and a persons desire to use the license.

Truthfully, licenses are issued for a reason. That is to manage populations and staff are happy to see/hear of people successfully using their Lifetime License.
 

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I purchased my NH Combination around 2001 just before rates were to increase. Around 2013 I purchased my Lifetime Muzzleloader license.

Both licenses have fed my family, coworkers, food shelters, and a few game suppers to the tune of a value exponentially greater than the purchase price.

Know that Lifetime money is invested in a interest bearing fund. The agency then withdraws funds. Essentially the sale of lifetime license is a gamble on stock markets and a persons desire to use the license.

Truthfully, licenses are issued for a reason. That is to manage populations and staff are happy to see/hear of people successfully using their Lifetime License.
I'm not poo pooing on it at all. I have most of my old hunting , fishing licenses from previous years going back to the early 90's. I've spent over $3100.00 this far and still find it the best money I spend all year. If I get through a lifetime of hunting for just over $5,000.00 , that's pretty fair admission cost.
 

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I'm not poo pooing on it at all. I have most of my old hunting , fishing licenses from previous years going back to the early 90's. I've spent over $3100.00 this far and still find it the best money I spend all year. If I get through a lifetime of hunting for just over $5,000.00 , that's pretty fair admission cost.
Not too many people here will argue with your comments about the value of hunting licenses.

From a marketing standpoint, the lifetime licenses seem well-priced. Expensive enough to bring in enough money, cheap enough to be a solid value to those who hunt frequently.
 




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