Don't have it yet but looking at the Ten Point Viper 400 with the new Accu Slide cocking de-cocking crank. It looks like a safe crossbow and you don't have to shoot it off at the end of the day.
That is good to know. I have watched several you tube videos on that model and it looks impressive. I now need to look in the sofa for some coin.After a ten year hiatus from archery hunting I decided to get back into it this year. I ended up buying that model. I haven’t shot it much and am new to crossbows so I can’t offer much of a review. With VT now allowing crossbows and my daughter having passed her bowhunter safety at conservation camp last year I figure my dollar went further as we can both use it. I bought that model based on the features you described and the bow tech at LL Cote said he does the same with his young daughter and found that model to be the safest.
Not much at all. Maybe a couple inches at 40. I’ve since pulled the weight out except for 50 grains for a total weight of 475. My 300 spine was too weak and the broadheads would not fly with 110 grains of weight. I’m very happy with the total weight of 475. Broadhead flight is perfect out to 50 yards. Last year I was at 455 and I’ve killed 5 deer with that setup with all pass through at all angles possible.Did it change your trajectory much when you put the extra 70 in? I shoot the FMJ's and am just under 500gr, but would really like to push it up closer to 550+. I was afraid I'd have to start at the beginning and re-tune, re-sight, etc. Thoghts?
Not much at all. Maybe a couple inches at 40. I’ve since pulled the weight out except for 50 grains for a total weight of 475. My 300 spine was too weak and the broadheads would not fly with 110 grains of weight. I’m very happy with the total weight of 475. Broadhead flight is perfect out to 50 yards. Last year I was at 455 and I’ve killed 5 deer with that setup with all pass through at all angles possible.
27.5” and 70. Maybe I had a bad batch of arrows but my bow wouldn’t shoot a 340 with only a 125 point. Next time I get arrows I’ll probably just get 250 spine and be done with it.Whats your dw/dl? Thats interesting the 300 was too weak.
I keep turning my dw down, so now I"m only pulling 63lbs. I've only shot 2 deer in my entire life that were father than 40yrds, and that includes rifle season, so I don't focus at all on long range flight - but I'm adding weight not just for full pass through on a deer but for bear.
Nice, good luck with it.Finally pulled the trigger on a new Tenpoint Viper S400 I was talking about and it is a shooter for sure. A friend of mine has a FFL license and orders guns and bows from the warehouse distrubutors at discounted prices. The Bow goes for $1500 retail and he got them for $1176. Case $110 for $80. He order the same bow I did. After assembly and sighting in we moved back to 40 yards and Dennis shot the top arrow first and I shot the bottom arrow. He also shot a 100lb bear Saturday morning with his, We were hunting the same bait site on alternate days. I sat there opening day in the afternoon and Thursday afternoon with no bears. He sat there Friday with nothing and Saturday morning at 0657 he had a small sow come in and he shot it with his Viper.
27.5” and 70. Maybe I had a bad batch of arrows but my bow wouldn’t shoot a 340 with only a 125 point. Next time I get arrows I’ll probably just get 250 spine and be done with it.
I like arrows around 8.5-9.5 GPI so I can add weight to the front and not be super heavy total weight. I think higher foc is more important than total weight. 450-525 total seems about perfect without losing too much trajectory. Use a good cut on contact fixed blade and try to be around 15% foc or more and you shouldn’t have a problem.I glued up some new arrows to mess with.
29" carbon to carbon @ 11.3gpi
Total is just over 500gr, but I think its only about 13% FOC? I'm just experimenting/learning really. I've never done anything beside shoot a pointy stick at a close deer. It always worked fine and I've only ever wounded/lost 1 deer, so I'm just farting around for the fun of it.
I had my son shooting this from his bow, which is around 55lbs. It was shooting about 8" lower at 35yrds than his arrows from last year. (Related note - the arrows from last year gave him a complete pass through on a 115lb doe, so those work fine too)
So I stripped the fletchings off and had him shoot bare shaft at about 20yrds and it showed nock high. I'm thinking this means the D loop has to come down, or the rest has to go up (if it will)?
Just to add to the treestand/saddle comments. I was thinking of trying a saddle, but my new knees might not like resting against a tree for hours.
Last night I used my new (last years) Lone Wolf sit and climb.... OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I used to be a Summit pro staffer and, well..... that LW is the easiest, lightest thing I've EVER used, going up and down.
Oh, I did swap the LW seat out for a Summit.