If 7600's then why not 7400's

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The 7600 is obviously the most used hunting rifle on this site. Most of you guys have said you use the 7600's because of the quick follow up shot. If that is the case, then why not use the semi-auto 7400?
 

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for me it's simple......the 7400 is a semi auto loader....which means it needs to be cleaned thoroughly for proper action usage....in the snow rain....warm temps one minute and cool temps in another minute.....your taking your chances......

my 7600 pump....no matter the oil.....no matter the weather conditions.....i can run that pump action......there will be a follow up shot if needed.....i've had my pump so gummed up it wouldn't hardly move.....but i always could get another round in without digging around in the chamber with a buck knife trying to spit out a broken case round.....only my 2 cents....
 

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The 7600 is obviously the most used hunting rifle on this site. Most of you guys have said you use the 7600's because of the quick follow up shot. If that is the case, then why not use the semi-auto 7400?[/b]
I'd probably end up blowing the follow-up shot, cause I would be pulling on the forstock to chamber the next round.
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And willys' right, That 7600 will work even if it's half frozen.
 

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Lance, just because you can't reach the pump on a 7600......
 

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7400 also known as the "jam master". When I worked at the gun shop this gun held the honors as the most problematic. The gunsmith at the time showed me on the inside of the reciever where the bolt slide back, groves in the reciever would form due to loose tolorences. These grove would over time cause the gun to start jamming. This is what I was told.
Al-though I can definatly confirm this gun was always coming into the shop with unhappy customers. I do know a few people that have had them for years with no problems.
 

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I think you need to worry about jamming if not kept thoroughly clean. Also the 7400 is a little bit heavier, weight I can do without. Using a Rem 870 12ga for hunting in shotgun only areas and a Rem 7600 in rifle areas, the transition from a pump shotgun to a pump rifle makes it a no brainer for ease of use. I also have both topped with Bushnell Reddots, so it's like I'm using the same weapon all the time. I think the overall process of pumping while recoiling and getting back on target for the 2nd shot seems a bit easier also. Bill
 

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Hey Maineguides, are you sure it was the 7400? I know there was a problem with the 742s. I have one of those in a carbine and you can see the grooves inside the reciever from the bolt.
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That rifle killed alot of deer before I retired it though for a more reliable 7600. It ain't fun trying to clear a jamb in the middle of a showdown with a 180lb buck! I ripped my thumbnail about clean off the last time it happened while the buck was hauling a$$ across a cut (got him though!)

I would have gotten a 7400 over my 7600 but my father had always hunted with an older Remington pump and he sort of influenced me. I am glad I went the way I did as my rapid fire accuracy is better with the pump for some reason.

My friend has a 7400 carbine and he has never had a problem with it except for water getting under the finish on the buttstock in one small area. He is deadly accurate with it at the range.
 

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I don't have a 7600 yet but be assured I will and would favor it over a semi. I deer hunt in Mass only with pump shotguns too. Reason being is if executed properly the when you rack the pump, you push out at your target on the outstroke and, it naturally brings you right back on target for an accurate second shot if needed.
 

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Hey Maineguides, are you sure it was the 7400? I know there was a problem with the 742s. I have one of those in a carbine and you can see the grooves inside the reciever from the bolt.
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That rifle killed alot of deer before I retired it though for a more reliable 7600. It ain't fun trying to clear a jamb in the middle of a showdown with a 180lb buck! I ripped my thumbnail about clean off the last time it happened while the buck was hauling a$$ across a cut (got him though!)

I would have gotten a 7400 over my 7600 but my father had always hunted with an older Remington pump and he sort of influenced me. I am glad I went the way I did as my rapid fire accuracy is better with the pump for some reason.

My friend has a 7400 carbine and he has never had a problem with it except for water getting under the finish on the buttstock in one small area. He is deadly accurate with it at the range.[/b]

Yup 742's and 7400's
 

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My 7400 never jammed on me. On the previous owner yes but not me. I shot A LOT of rounds through that gun...it had a serious accuracy problem at the range. I wouldn't hesitate to buy one of them there 7600s as a backup rifle though. I wonder where I can get one thats different than the run of the mill ones.
 

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DMF might be able to help you Shawn...my guess is he'll be on midday....
 

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I still think I'll stick with my bolt action. As a matter of fact I just bought a sweet little Model 7, 7mm-08. Hopefully once I get the rust off it she'll be a shooter.
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I do use a 7400. No issues whatsoever. It's taken down a moose with two nice quick shots, a nice buck, does, and it's three shots in a half-dollar, one inch high at 100 yards. Jammed?? What are people cleaning them with, sandpaper? I haven't had any problems at all. I've strung multiple shots together many times without it jamming.

I like not having to think about my gun after I fire. With my 7400 the next bullet is always ready for me when I need it.

I wouldn't hunt with anything else other than maybe a bolt action...I'd like to get a Remington Model 700 in .308 in the coming years.
 

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I do use a 7400. No issues whatsoever. It's taken down a moose with two nice quick shots, a nice buck, does, and it's three shots in a half-dollar, one inch high at 100 yards. Jammed?? What are people cleaning them with, sandpaper? I haven't had any problems at all. I've strung multiple shots together many times without it jamming.

I like not having to think about my gun after I fire. With my 7400 the next bullet is always ready for me when I need it.

I wouldn't hunt with anything else other than maybe a bolt action...I'd like to get a Remington Model 700 in .308 in the coming years.[/b]

I dont think all guns will jam. I also hunt with a gun (winchester 100) that is well known for jamming but I have never had a problem.
 

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With any semi 742, 7400, 100 etc you need to find the right combination of ammo that will shoot accurately and reliable from your particular gun.
I have used all three and have experienced jamming on all three with someammo.

The .308 model 100 shot perfect every time with 165 grain winchester power point.
When I tried the Hornady light magnum .308 load it jammed most of the time.
Switched back to the Winchester load it it never jammed again.

I do agree that you need to pay extra attention to keeping a semi cleaned more than a bolt action or pump.

I retired my pump 7600 .30-06 the day I screwed up and did not push the slide all the way forward locking up the bolt.
After about 2 hours on stand a nice buck was walking thru an opening giving me about a 3 second chance to take a shot.
Pushed the safety off and squeezed the trigger, nothing happened.
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By the time I figured out what had happened the deer was gone.
My mistake but I never took the pump out again.
 

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With any semi 742, 7400, 100 etc you need to find the right combination of ammo that will shoot accurately and reliable from your particular gun.
I have used all three and have experienced jamming on all three with someammo.[/b]


Hell my buddy had a 7600 in 35 Whelen...he was shooting Trophy bonded bear claws out of it...the clip kept dropping out a little on the bottom every time he shot...not allowing a 2nd shot. If I could only have one rifle it would be a bolt...pump a close 2nd.
 

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The last 7600 I owned fire the first shot, eject it, then would try to chamber two shells on the return stroke. I tried six different clips and it consistently did it. A gunsmith tried a couple things, but he said that it was a guessing game and would be very difficult to fix, if at all, due to the poor tolerances of the 7600. This present one that I own I immediately cycled five shells through it probably 50 times during the first day with the idea that if it jammed even once I'd bring it back immediately.
 

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Hell my buddy had a 7600 in 35 Whelen...he was shooting Trophy bonded bear claws out of it...the clip kept dropping out a little on the bottom every time he shot...not allowing a 2nd shot. If I could only have one rifle it would be a bolt...pump a close 2nd.[/b]
I had the same problem with my 35 whelen. I finaly fixed it by using a clip from a auto loader, never missed a shell since.
 

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Keep it clean, keep it clean, keep it clean, and you shouldn`t have any problems with a 7400. I found out the hard way by letting it go a while. A good cleaning fixed all the problems I was having. GH
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