Good point. Apply for a tag in a western state and in every case you have to purchase the NR hunting license before applying! Some states will refund money for license if you aren’t drawn. If you are drawn, the price of the NR permit you drew is very high and in addition to your NR license. When I stopped applying for Wyoming moose 10 years ago, the NR moose tag was $1,500.00. Bighorn Sheep was $2,000.00. Both probably more now, and bonus points went from $7.00 to $$100.00 if that’s all you wanted. Some of those states require NR to hire an outfitter with guides. Be interesting to see how Maine’s new program affects the Moose tag Auction bidding. But I believe that to the extent that it does requires some of the $$ from lodge tags has to make up for any shortfall. Moose Tag Auction funds go to pay full scholarships for kids to attend week long outdoor fish and wildlife sports at camp in Bryant Pond....a good thingI guess I'm not following
Have you looked at the prices of non-resident licences out west?
Gotta love the "outfitters". Privileged moose permits, leasing paper land?...... but hey, we should all care about them as much as they do about us. Oh wait.....that wouldn't work out well for them if we lived by that. We dealt with something similar with our guided bear hunt permits in NH. I stopped guiding for these reasons. Seems pretty hypocritical taking the revenue ahead of the resource and ALL those who support our heritage.
As I said a few months ago, I truly don't care about any of it anymore either, but I still think it's morally wrong. They choose to be a guide. The good ones will stay in business, the bad ones don't. They might not be getting rich, but they are still choosing to attempt making a living on the resource. I'm good with that.....right up until the point they start removing the accessibility to the resource from us the hunter, regardless of state.I guess im on the other side of this. It doesn’t bother me too much anymore. It’s not like these guys are making it rich renting out fallen apart Camps with soggy mattresses for 40 bucks a night. The state is throwing them a bone. They get a week of rent, serving meals, a week of guiding, etc. Something like that will make or break the majority of these places. The state gets 1500 each and it goes to the states youth. I’m not going to lose sleep over it one way or the other, but it could certainly be worse.
Don't you need to have a hunting license regardless if you're drawn for a permit? If you put in for a permit, and it comes time that the state finds out you don't have a license that permit then goes to an alternate right?How about you have to buy a hunting license to apply for the moose lottery and you don't get the license money back? That ensures that you are a hunter applying for the permit. Then when you win a permit you can auction it off just like the lodges do.
What would you do? Auction the permit off for $20,000, or go moose hunting?
Yes, I think that is how it works. You can't sell or transfer a permit to anyone.Don't you need to have a hunting license regardless if you're drawn for a permit? If you put in for a permit, and it comes time that the state finds out you don't have a license that permit then goes to an alternate right?
I didn't know you could do that. Then you could sell it to anyone, illegally of course.For what it’s worth, when you pay the Dept for the moose tag, you can change your sub-p to anyone. You are not required to have the sub-p that you named when you entered the drawing. Of course it’s against the law to sell the sub-p position on your tag, but it seems that there’s no need of being a menses candidate to circumvent that law.